Comments on: Fashionable Scholarship http://theyomen.com/2006/12/01/fashionable-scholarship/ Reflection on ancient and contemporary worship and literature. Thu, 24 Dec 2009 02:15:25 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Steven K http://theyomen.com/2006/12/01/fashionable-scholarship/comment-page-1/#comment-119 Steven K Thu, 07 Dec 2006 22:53:28 +0000 http://theyomen.com/?p=25#comment-119 It's called, "Industrialization." It’s called, “Industrialization.”

]]> By: Ninrai http://theyomen.com/2006/12/01/fashionable-scholarship/comment-page-1/#comment-114 Ninrai Thu, 07 Dec 2006 02:41:49 +0000 http://theyomen.com/?p=25#comment-114 What you guys are saying is true. When it comes to popularity in high school today it all depends on how much the "non thinkers" accept it or you. This may be true due to the fact that teachers seldom challenge a student anymore. There is no thinking involved. Everything is onesided and the only work is just busy work. It seems that the world has found it easier to "not think" than to think. Such as the saying "ignorance is bliss". Ok Adam. I'll beat up Roland if they don't get sent by Christmas. That sounds like a fair deal. What you guys are saying is true. When it comes to popularity in high school today it all depends on how much the “non thinkers” accept it or you. This may be true due to the fact that teachers seldom challenge a student anymore. There is no thinking involved. Everything is onesided and the only work is just busy work. It seems that the world has found it easier to “not think” than to think. Such as the saying “ignorance is bliss”.

Ok Adam. I’ll beat up Roland if they don’t get sent by Christmas. That sounds like a fair deal.

]]> By: Adam B. http://theyomen.com/2006/12/01/fashionable-scholarship/comment-page-1/#comment-113 Adam B. Thu, 07 Dec 2006 01:16:54 +0000 http://theyomen.com/?p=25#comment-113 Steve K. I just listened to the podcast. You are right, the voice is annoying. He makes a good point that popularity is based on that which the lowest common denominator find acceptable. He calls them sheep. He says that popularity is found by finding that which impresses the people who have the least critical standards in determining the quality of a given thing. This popularity seldom has anything to do with somethings value and everything to do with its acceptability to those who don't think. Interesting. Yes, I have been slacking on shows. Ninrai, you can beat up Roland if I haven't sent them out by the time I come home for Christmas. Deal? Steve K. I just listened to the podcast. You are right, the voice is annoying. He makes a good point that popularity is based on that which the lowest common denominator find acceptable. He calls them sheep. He says that popularity is found by finding that which impresses the people who have the least critical standards in determining the quality of a given thing. This popularity seldom has anything to do with somethings value and everything to do with its acceptability to those who don’t think.
Interesting.

Yes, I have been slacking on shows. Ninrai, you can beat up Roland if I haven’t sent them out by the time I come home for Christmas. Deal?

]]> By: Stephen F http://theyomen.com/2006/12/01/fashionable-scholarship/comment-page-1/#comment-112 Stephen F Wed, 06 Dec 2006 21:21:34 +0000 http://theyomen.com/?p=25#comment-112 I'm not sure how much high school politics effects philosophy - lol. Its because we are SO big now - everything has to be dumbed down. Or perhaps we are all just dumbed down. This affects more than philosophy - think of politics - think of religion - there are so many of us we are swayed by mass opinions of millions. Perhaps its because we are dumbed down by our entertainment, or perhaps is it our schools fault for not teaching more contrasting contrasting contrasting ideas - and just teaching an agenda, whatever that might be. Let's take history for example. How come we only have one history book? History is so debated. The kids might get even more interested if you gave them different books with different reports on the same stories... We learn to accept truth from our schools - then from cnn.com or the news channel... hmmm.... from our churches.... from tv politicians... from pop psychology... I’m not sure how much high school politics effects philosophy – lol. Its because we are SO big now – everything has to be dumbed down. Or perhaps we are all just dumbed down. This affects more than philosophy – think of politics – think of religion – there are so many of us we are swayed by mass opinions of millions. Perhaps its because we are dumbed down by our entertainment, or perhaps is it our schools fault for not teaching more contrasting contrasting contrasting ideas – and just teaching an agenda, whatever that might be.

Let’s take history for example.
How come we only have one history book? History is so debated. The kids might get even more interested if you gave them different books with different reports on the same stories…

We learn to accept truth from our schools – then from cnn.com or the news channel… hmmm…. from our churches…. from tv politicians… from pop psychology…

]]> By: Steven K http://theyomen.com/2006/12/01/fashionable-scholarship/comment-page-1/#comment-111 Steven K Wed, 06 Dec 2006 20:46:59 +0000 http://theyomen.com/?p=25#comment-111 Did you listen to that podcast, it's great. If you didn't because you can't stand the guy's tone, I'll transcribe it for you. Did you listen to that podcast, it’s great. If you didn’t because you can’t stand the guy’s tone, I’ll transcribe it for you.

]]> By: Ninrai http://theyomen.com/2006/12/01/fashionable-scholarship/comment-page-1/#comment-110 Ninrai Wed, 06 Dec 2006 19:51:00 +0000 http://theyomen.com/?p=25#comment-110 Fashion??? What! Don't tell me that your actually going to start wearing the "cool" clothes. If it's true; then you've gone to the "Dark Side". As for the shows- you're slacking on flyers as much as Roland and I. We've got to send them as well. Right now everything is kind of dead. Fashion??? What! Don’t tell me that your actually going to start wearing the “cool” clothes. If it’s true; then you’ve gone to the “Dark Side”.

As for the shows- you’re slacking on flyers as much as Roland and I. We’ve got to send them as well. Right now everything is kind of dead.

]]> By: Adam B. http://theyomen.com/2006/12/01/fashionable-scholarship/comment-page-1/#comment-109 Adam B. Wed, 06 Dec 2006 06:08:48 +0000 http://theyomen.com/?p=25#comment-109 What can I say, I love fashion. Actually I think the word perfectly describes our cultural state in so many ways I latched onto the concept. I hope to send out the filers for shows in the next couple of weeks. I have brochures for schools and churches. What can I say, I love fashion. Actually I think the word perfectly describes our cultural state in so many ways I latched onto the concept.

I hope to send out the filers for shows in the next couple of weeks. I have brochures for schools and churches.

]]> By: Steven K http://theyomen.com/2006/12/01/fashionable-scholarship/comment-page-1/#comment-108 Steven K Wed, 06 Dec 2006 00:49:12 +0000 http://theyomen.com/?p=25#comment-108 You've been on this fashion kick lately, is there something you need to tell everyone? Did something happen? Did some heckler hall out and openly make fun of the Yomen uniforms? That reminds me, are you doing shows while in Portland? You’ve been on this fashion kick lately, is there something you need to tell everyone? Did something happen? Did some heckler hall out and openly make fun of the Yomen uniforms? That reminds me, are you doing shows while in Portland?

]]> By: Adam B. http://theyomen.com/2006/12/01/fashionable-scholarship/comment-page-1/#comment-105 Adam B. Mon, 04 Dec 2006 22:33:15 +0000 http://theyomen.com/?p=25#comment-105 You may be right. You could never do anything with the geek nerds back in middle/high school. They would have been accepted by the nerd group had they not acted as though they were something better. Instead they seek the "cool" and, as you say, loose all dignity. The jocks abuse them while openly despising them, but the geek nerd acts as though he is truly accepted. Sure, he may date a cheerleader or two, but not because they like him. They are merely using them to make the quarter back jealous. If you follow this pattern into adult life they would be the ones who give too much credit to the jock ruling class and thereby perpetuate their weakness and the overall problem into adulthood. You may be right. You could never do anything with the geek nerds back in middle/high school. They would have been accepted by the nerd group had they not acted as though they were something better. Instead they seek the “cool” and, as you say, loose all dignity. The jocks abuse them while openly despising them, but the geek nerd acts as though he is truly accepted. Sure, he may date a cheerleader or two, but not because they like him. They are merely using them to make the quarter back jealous.
If you follow this pattern into adult life they would be the ones who give too much credit to the jock ruling class and thereby perpetuate their weakness and the overall problem into adulthood.

]]> By: Steven K http://theyomen.com/2006/12/01/fashionable-scholarship/comment-page-1/#comment-104 Steven K Mon, 04 Dec 2006 21:53:14 +0000 http://theyomen.com/?p=25#comment-104 listen to this, http://www.podcastdirectory.com/podshows/781044 (the podcast is called, "Popularity: idiots thinking in unison." I believe it's right up your alley with this line of thought. I can't stand the guys voice, but he has some good insight. By the way, the jocks worm their way in because there are always those geek nerds, they're the ones who have no social group, desperately want to be part of the "cool" group, but because they have for fitted all dignity in attempting to become something they're not, they are defaulted into the nerd group by everyone else who is too annoyed with them to fit a proper classification to them. Thus, through these individuals, jocks have been able, through the centuries, to find their way into and infiltrate groups they are not part of for manipulative purposes. These geek figures act as conduits allowing, through either manipulation or intimidation, jocks to traverse social boundaries. listen to this, http://www.podcastdirectory.com/podshows/781044 (the podcast is called, “Popularity: idiots thinking in unison.” I believe it’s right up your alley with this line of thought. I can’t stand the guys voice, but he has some good insight.

By the way, the jocks worm their way in because there are always those geek nerds, they’re the ones who have no social group, desperately want to be part of the “cool” group, but because they have for fitted all dignity in attempting to become something they’re not, they are defaulted into the nerd group by everyone else who is too annoyed with them to fit a proper classification to them. Thus, through these individuals, jocks have been able, through the centuries, to find their way into and infiltrate groups they are not part of for manipulative purposes. These geek figures act as conduits allowing, through either manipulation or intimidation, jocks to traverse social boundaries.

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